Men Licking Pussy While She Is Getting Fucked WHEN I FIRST GOT MARRIED MY WIFE TOLD ME THAT SHE WANTED TO SWING WITH A BLACK DUDE THAT SHE WORKED WITH AT HER JOB. I WAS NOT INTO THIS BUT SHE INSISTED AND DEMANDED THAT I JOIN IN--THE FUN.. SO, BEING A SUBMISSIVE CROSS DRESSER I SAID, OK. WHEN SHE BROUGHT THE BLACK STUD TO OUR HOME MY WIFE KISSED HIM AND HE FELT HER UP RIGHT AT THE DOOR. MY WIFE TOLD HIM THAT I'M A SUB SISSY BOY AND THAT I WOULD SUCK HIS COCK TO GET HIM HARD... I HAD TO GET ON MY KNEES AND TOOK HIM IN MY MOUTH.. HE GOT HARD AND IT GREW TO 11" AS I SUCKED HIES SHAFT AND BALLS.. THEN HE FUCKED MY WIFE AND I GOT UNDER THEM AND DID MY THING EATING PUSSY AND LICKING HIS BLACK SHAFT UNTIL HE SHOT CUM INTO HER PUSSY AND I SWALLOWED AFTER HE PULLED OUT OF HER PUSSY... WHEN HE LEFT MY WIFE SAID I'M A SISSY FOR BLACK COCKS AND THAT SHE'D BRING OTHER BIG DICK STUDS FOR MORE FUN AND NEXT TIME I'D HAVE TO SUCK SEVERAL BLACK COCKS WHILE SHE WATCHED AND THEN I WOULD HAVE TO LET THEM HAVE MY ASS/PUSSY AS LONG AS THEY WANTED IT... I'M NOW A WHITE SISSIE SLUT FOR BLACK COCKS, SO IF THERE ARE MEMBERS INTO THIS-CONTACT ME!!!!
Bareback We love bareback sex. Last year we met a well hung bi stud. We did three way oral and took turns fucking my wife. He came in her pussy, deep, four times. I came twice (so hot knowing my cock is drenched in his cum) and my wife came 15 times. Best sex we ever had!
Cum In My Wife Last year we met a well hung very fit bi guy. We did three way oral sex, then took turns fucking my young wife, He came in her pussy four times, I came in her pussy twice, and she came 15 times that night. Best sex ever! and we'd love to repeat it soon
Cuckold We have but, my (Rob) family doesn;t think that it is healthy ... I love my wife but after being married seveal years it may be time to help her find a new cuck ... I can not afford not to ...... any way llets jut say that I believe that my wife (Val) will soon be looking for a new playmate .... I just hope that he knows that if he doesn't treat her well .... just because we will no longer be WITH each other does not mean that I will allow any to hurt my childs mother ... or my WIFE .. This may be MY last post.
Bang My Wife I was out at a Country bar one evening with this married couple that I had met at this bar a few months ago. It was a normal night and not much was happening. The guy had went to the hroom and when he left, his wife whispered to me that he had given her permission to take me home with them and fuck me, if I was into that kind of thing. She said that he wasn't sure of what my reaction would be, so she was tasked with asking me. I said that I would be okay with it if her hubby was. When he came back, she went to the Restroom and we talked. I told him what she had said and that I was okay with it if he was. He smiled and said that he was totally cool with it. He confided that he was also submissive. We agreed to pay our tab and go to their house.
I was more excited then them because I am very closet "bi" and this was my opportunity to push the limits. Given my conversation with the husband, I had a feeling that I could get some cock myself if I played it right.
We got to their house and those two started kissing. I went over and started kissing his wife. After a while of heavy petting, she suggested we all go into the bedroom and get naked! One in the bedroom, I laid her on her back and started to lick her pussy and suck on her clit. She was soaked and I swear she must have came within seconds after my tongue was inserted in her snatch. After about 10 minutes of pussy eating, I told her husband to come over and taste how good she was. He dove right in! I then started to work on her tits and straddled her face to fuck her mouth. Her husband was still eating her out and watching me fuck his wife's face from behind. I then told him to stay at the foot of the bed and I slid down and stuck my cock inside her wet, warm snatch. I told her husband to stay on the floor at the foot of the bed and watch as I fucked his wife. That would be a hot view for him. After about 5 or 10 minutes of fucking her, I got off and slid to the foot of the bed and told her husband that I wanted him to taste how good his wife was. He started to slid up to eat her pussy but I stopped him and said that I wanted him to lick her juices off my cock. He hesitated for a moment, looked up at her, and receiving a wink from her, engulfed my cock with his mouth. After a few minutes of this, I stopped him so I could once again fuck his wife. As I was fucking her, he stood up on the bed and said that I was now going to taste how good he tasted, and stuck his cock in my mouth. I wanted to concentrate on blowing him, so we switched positions so I laid on my back, his wife on top fucking me, and he straddled my chest and was fucking my face.
It wasn't long before he was fucking my face hard and shooting a nice warm load of semen in my mouth! All along, his wife is riding my hard cock and having orgasm after orgasm. It wasn't long before I shot my load deep inside of her. Afterwards, we laid there for a few minutes. When I noticed that her husband was hard again. I told him that it was time he tasted my load. So, I made him go down on his wife and eat her snatch while I blew him again!
We all were satisfied many times that evening. I even watched him fuck his a wife that night and we both fucked her a few times.
We haven't done it again yet, but we still hang out at the same bar and I can tell they are still interested. That was two weeks ago so I am rushing it? lol
Men Getting Fucked By Women THIS is my ultimate bisexual fantasy. I want to be sucking hubby's pussy wetted cock as his wife or her playmate fucks me in the ass with a strapon. PLEASE fuck me in the ass as lady as I suck your husband or BF's cock...PLEASE!
Men Licking Pussy While She Is Getting Fucked Hello...amber here, i also love to lick His balls and shaft as He is fucking her pussy and then when He cums inside her, filling her pussy full of cum amber enjoys sucking His cock dry and then laying between her legs and sucking her cum filled pussy for a long long time....sucking and licking her cummy, wet,pussy ...i get so wildly turned on doing this ! Mmmmm it makes me so hot to suck a wet cock and eat a wet pussy ...and especially a cum filled or cum coated pussy n cock!
Exhibitionism I love to stroke my cock on a nude beach. My wife likes to lay on her back, feet together, knees wide apart, poussy shaved smooth, pink, and dripping. This always earns us a few stiff cocks which we suck to a creany finish. The lucky ones get to fuck my wife too. So hot
6'2, 175lbs blue eyes brown hair. Consider myself to be very open minded and non judgemental. I guess I'm what you'd call versatile... not a dom or sub, just like to give and get! I am open to just about anything except pain or the usual turn-offs. I like to top and bottom. I would really like to eat pussy with a cock in it and lick both of them, then lick that pussy some more after a load of cum has filled her!
Am very bi curious and fantasize about many different possibilities. Am hoping to find a bisexual guy, white or blk, preferably 8" uncut who would not be shy sucking my cock in bed while the wife watches. I will reciprocate as well with the sucking. Wife may or may not want participate. She may just be a voyuer.
Hi I am 37yo bisexual, in Gilbert Az. and i would love to meet a couple or a girl to try new things with. I have been with a man 1 time and it was great i love it. But i keep dreaming of being in 69 with a girl and and as i am eating her pussy someone is fucking her from behind and i am licking his cock and eating her pussy at the same time and he cum in her and i eat it all out. please look me up if u want to meet and get to know each other
Younger thirties guy interested in older men and women over 55. Would love a three way with an older daddy /grandpa and his wife. Or just one on one with an older man or woman would be great. Any older men out there want a younger guy to play with? Or any couples out there need a good hard cock to satisfy you and your wife's needs? I am very mature, clean, told I am good looking, safe and can be as discreet as you want. Lets play!
I am a married man looking for a man to develop a relationship with. I am bisexual and would like to meet another guy. My wife is into watching me and another guy get it on and hopes I can find a guy to develop a relationship with. She is also open to perhaps sharing in the experience with me if the situation was ideal. We are professionals and have a diverse array of interests and friends. I am looking for a down to earth guy who is serious about fostering a friendship with me and is willing to go slow to eventually incorporate my wife. I would not be interested in one night stand types. We enjoy going out and like many forms of entertainment. We are down to earth people who are discret and completely disease free. We would like only the same to reply.
Update; Been away from this board for awhile. WM living in Tampa and have enjoyed a number of bi experiences and would like to explore even more. I particularly enjoy couples - your wife could just be an observer or direct activity all the way to participating. But definitely willing to consider other men on a solo basis. I'm 49yo, professional 5'9, fit totally D/D free. You will find me polite, respectful but very imaginative and creative sexually. Willing to try just about anything twice.
I believe in many things but I think Crash Davis said it best: ""Well, I believe in the soul, the cock, the pussy, the small of a woman's back, the hanging curve ball, high fiber, good scotch, that the novels of Susan Sontag are self-indulgent, overrated crap. I believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone. I believe there ought to be a constitutional amendment outlawing Astroturf and the designated hitter. I believe in the sweet spot, soft-core pornography, opening your presents Christmas morning rather than Christmas Eve and I believe in long, slow, deep, soft, wet kisses that last three days."
Ask me a question. I'll be glad to answer.
We are happily married sexy couple. We love having sex and horny experiences. I am a bisexual and had developmental experiences when I was younger, I found this very horny loved licking pussy and the soft touch of a female.
We have met a couple of ladies on this site and loved every minute of it. I find it very horny to watch him licking pussy and for both of us pleasing the lady.
We are a social couple who enjoy meeting and drinking with friends, good food - cooking and eatting out. We have two sons and loved spending time as a family.
We are honest and easy going and would love to have a fun loving lady to join us for sexy times who we can form a mutual bond with.
Bi WM, 6'2", 190#, 32" waist, Blond/Brown, attractive, athletic muscular build from regular gym workouts, well endowed-- shaved 8"c, no body hair, D/D free, impeccably clean, healthy mind and body, non drinker, non smoker but 420 friendly. Open minded, non judgmental, uninhibited with a broad range of sexual interests, friendly, approachable and creative; I'm an intelligent, well rounded and successful professional who is caring, considerate and respectful, with a sense of humor and I'm told easy to be with. I'm interested in meeting couples and singles with whom I can build an ongoing friendship as opposed to one night stands; since I am on here for sex, if we don't develop a friendship one night stands and friends with benefits are all great.
I'm very oral and enjoy pleasing. I have high energy, a high sex drive with great stamina; long lasting and I always aim to satisfy my partner(s). Satisfying my partner(s) is very important to me; I'm patient and love to satisfy. I have a long term bi girl friend who loves to participate with couples and single guys in 3 sums with myself.
A favorite is to be with a couple with a bi guy. We lay him on the bed on his back, and she straddles him 69 position with her pussy over his face, his cock very close to her mouth. I am able to fuck her from behind, very close to his eyes, so he can watch my cock slide in and out or her pussy. I can even pull it out and slide it into his mouth so he can taste her sweet pussy on my cock. She is sucking his cock while I fuck her and I can watch her from behind. If he likes I can pull out and drop a hot load on his face or in his mouth. If be hasn't come I can help her suck his cock until he comes or we can both eat her pussy.
I'm very creative, this is one of many ideas.
A married professional man looking to experiment--I want more (bi action, straight action, open to it all) with the right people. I am 5'7" approximately 188 lbs, brown salt/pepper hair and hazel eyes. I am an intelligent, sane guy with a sense of humor who also values his privacy. My wife is definitely not into this so I am flying solo and she does not know. My philosophy is I owe it to my wife and myself to be safe and discreet. I have tried to get her interested in joining in this with me but its just not going to happen and I respect her wishes. If you are not ok with my situation, I understand but it is what it is and for now I am ok with it. I have a curiosity that won't be suppressed any longer and what I have done so far I have enjoyed immensely. My motto is: "Life is a daring adventure or nothing." And, by the way, I love to be nude any where it is possible. Visiting Washington, DC 10/7-8.
So I have now enjoyed being with a guy a few times .... what about a couple .... want to try more.... open to almost anything.
I a married man. and I just love sites like this. I enjoy the naughty and nasty chats with others who enjoy this as well. I find it quit the turn on showing off my " naughty, nasty and dirty " side for others. I have always liked getting naked for the camera. I also love taking slutty pics of my wife. and sending them, and sharing them with others. another thing I find a huge turn on. is geting pics sent back to me of my wife from someone who has photoshoped them. I also love to play with other cocks as well. I hope we can find the time to have some fun together..............
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I have always been curious sexually and really enjoy both voyeurism and exhibitionism. I am probably more bi-sexual at this point than just bi-curious. I have had a few experiences and have enjoyed them all. I guess I can share a few with you.
I talked my wife into going to a swinger's club just to watch 6 or 7 years ago. We both really enjoyed the atmospher and the voyeurism. She was afraid that people would approach her or would pressure us to have sex with them; but that didn't happen and the people were actually very friendly, nice and sociable. Since then we have been to dozens of clubs together (most of these clubs only allow couples). I would love to swing and swap partners with another couple; but my wife is not ready to see me with another women.
About 5 years ago, we went to a club in New York city. They have a policy that if you want to go back into the play rooms, you have to take your clothes off. My wife decided to humor me; so we got naked and joined the action. She was seated on a couch and I was in front of her eating her out while a large black guy was doing the same to his girlfriend who was sitting right next to my wife. I watch as he slowly slid up and placed his huge cock at the entrance to his girlfriend's pussy. I couldn't take my eyes off of his cock, but as I glanced down at my wife, I saw that she was watching the same thing that I was. After a few minutes, the guys politely asked if he could feel my wife's 34G breasts. I turned to her and whispered in to her ear, "he asked me if he could feel your breasts?". She surprised me by saying, "Really? He actually asked you if he could feel my tits?". I said, "Yes". So she said "OK". I turned back to the guy and gestured for him to help himself. As he reached over to caress her boobs, I slowly inserted my cock into my wife's pussy. I couldn't believe how wet she was.
After a minute, the guy removed his hand, so I leaned forward to say thank you to my wife. But she surprised me again and said "I bet you would like to see him fuck me with that huge cock, wouldn't you?" I just nodded and then said "why? would you do it?" She said "yes." As quick as I could, before she changed her mind, I turned to the black guy and asked him if we would like to fuck my wife. In the blink of an eye, he reached for another condom, opened the package with one hand, pulled out of his girlfriend and unrolled the condom onto his gigantic cock. I quickly moved up next to my wife so I had a good view and then the guy slowly started to inch his thick dick into my wife's dripping cunt. A thousand emotions flashed through my mind in that moment; but I was out of my mind turned on. Anyway, he very fucked her very sensuously for a few minutes until my wife came. He wasn't finished but politely pulled out and went back to fucking his girlfriend. Nothing has come close to the excitement of that moment. I have been hooked on watching my wife fuck and suck other men ever sense.
We attended a few gang-bang parties where lots of pre-screened men show up to allow women to fuck as many guys as they want. I really got off watching my wife pick out the guys and blow or fuck them. Next we found a straight guy on the internet that my wife was willing to meet for a MFM threesome. He was a nice guy and we met him 5 or six times. During one of those meetings, I slid up behind my wife while she was riding his cock and inserted my dick into her ass. She went absolutely crazy. She is usually very quite during sex, but this time she was yelling and screaming "God YES!! Fuck Me!". She came like crazy over and over. We did that again once and it was just as good the second time; but then that guy got a girlfriend and didn't want to play anymore.
We have met up with about half-dozen other men. One of them had a beautiful dick about 8 inches long but a reasonable width. He saw me fascinated by his dick and asked me if I wanted to touch it. I shyly said yes. Then I took ahold of it and slowly started to stroke it up and down. I wanted so bad to take into my mouth but was afraid i would freak him out; so instead I offered it back to my wife. After that, I couldn't stop thinking about sucking a cock.
I finally found an adult bookstore where I read that all types attended. Gay guys are the most common, but bi-guys and women looking for gang-bangs also show up from time-to-time. I visited there several times and had witnessed some interesting things; but on this one particular evening, there was only me and one other guy in the place. He was sitting on the other side of the room looking strangely at each other. He suddenly got up and walk over to me. He was standing in front of me and he said "Hi, my name is Joe". I said "Hi." He then asked me if I ever sucked a cock before and I said "No." He then said "Would you like to?" I said, "Yes. I think I would." He then pulled his shorts down and off. He wasn't wearing any underwear so his flaccid penis was directly in front of my face. It looked really small, and I was actually a bit surprised. But I leaned forward and placed my lips around his entire shaved cock and balls. It felt really strange: spongy and soft yet rubbery at the same time. He immediately started to get hard; and within a few seconds, it had grown to a couple of inches. So I started moving my mouth up and down on his cock while he stood in front of me. I was enjoying the fact that I could take his entire cock in my mouth; but that didn't last long. His dick kept on growing and was soon too big to fit comfortably in my mouth without gagging; so I moved my hand up and started stroking his shaft while moving my lips and tongue on the head. I felt a strange sense of power at that point that was out of character for me. I reached up, grabbed his hips and turned up toward the couch and made him sit down. I then moved between his legs and continued to give him a blow job. I was afraid he might come in my mouth; so I started jacking his cock with both hands paying extra attention to his frenulum while teasing his head. He started moaning like crazy and saying "Oh my god, I'm going to come!" I stroked his shaft more trying not to touch the head hoping that it would stretch it out; but he soon shot a rope of come up over my head. I really couldn't believe it. It happened so fast and afterwards, I was disappointed that I didn't let him come in my mouth. I really wanted to know what it would have felt like to have that powerful shot of come hitting the back of my throat. At that point, the owner of the shop popped his head in the door and shouted out that it was closing time. We picked up our things and left. I went straight out to my car and masturbated to one the most powerful orgasms of my life. Again, I was hooked.
I went back to that same bookstore a couple of months later. This time, I told my wife that I wanted to jerk-off another guy and she said "Ok. You can play with other guys; just no playing with other women." I hadn't told her about my first experience. I'm sure she would have been fine with it; but for some reason just felt like something I should keep to myself. I had a few more bookstore experiences; but the fear of STS's keeps me from going back there. I got the curiosity out of my system; so now I only want more traditional experiences.
My wife and I were approached by a guy who listed himself as bi and seemed nice and cute. My wife, knowing that I wanted to suck a cock but not knowing that I already had, asked me if I wanted to try a threesome with him. I jumped at it and we did hook up with the guy. My wife and I started out by sharing his cock with each of us taking turns sucking and licking his head or shaft. We moved to the bed and my wife continued to blow him while he sucked my dick. My god, did he know how to suck cock! Anyway, he came in my wife's mouth and she swallowed it all. He got up to go to the bath room and my wife turned to me and said "Oh my god, he tasted so good. You would have loved it!" I was really disappointed then. From that point on, I couldn't get the idea of swallowing a load of cum out of my mind. We found another bi-guy that joined us for a play date and I finally got taste my first load of cum only he didn't cum much so I barely knew it happened.
I have never tried anal sex with a man (giving or getting); but I do fantasize about it. I guess that would have to be under the right conditions. At this point, I am really up for trying just about anything once. The only thing I am not into is male-on-male intimacy like hugging and kissing and I am not really into getting my nipples pinched or sucked. I would, however, really like to find a bi-guy for some occasional fun when the urge strikes (him or me). I would love to find someone that I trust enough to play with from time to time - no strings attached - that won't turn into a drama and wonit disrupt my otherwise normal life. While my wife accepts my needs when it comes to other men; I still prefer to keep it discrete and private.
I am a healthy clean male looking to fullfill my fantasy of a bisexual threesome with a couple. I have never been with a man or been with anyone but my wife. This is something that I wanted to do some time back with my wife but it did not go well with her but now many years later I would like to fullfill my fantasy in a discreet way with the right open minded couple to see where we can take it. It is a great fantasy of mine to turn on an attractive women by making it with her man and having her encourage and coach us along enjoying the show and then jumping into the action if she desires. And I would like to be with both the women and the man but would be ok to perform for her as just man to man sex if that is her pleasure and would be a big turn on for me either way. Or, she would encourage me to pleasure her man only while he pleasured the women only. I am also open to sexually explore with only a man and no women present if the right situation came along. It is all new to me at the moment, so there are a lot of options. I think that sex is fine with the opposite or the same sex partner as long as it feels good for both so why not explore
We dont have pics of what happened to us but the sex was INCREDIBLE! We met a well hung stud last year and his fantasy was bareback sex with a creampie in my wife's young pussy. We did three way oral and took turns fucking my wife. He emptied his balls into my wife's pussy four times that night. I came twice and she came 15 times. Ive never seen a pussy with six loads of sperm in it and we'd love to repeat that experience soon. Best sex ever!
We like to play with cpls who like to eat cream pies.We will play in the same bed. He is fucking with my wife and i'm fucking with his wife.Whem we cum i will lick and suck his cock cleam and he will do the same to me. He will then suck his wife pussy and i suck my wife pussy.BI. guys try it you will like it.BI>.
Hello we're a couple (man and wife) seeking a female/s mostly for me (the wife) although hubby will play a little to. A few examples, he wants to watch you an I do 69. I want him to eat your pussy with me so our tongues will touch together on your clit and I want him to eat my pussy with you until I Squirt then we can lick his nice dick together sharing his cum as we kiss. However, it's all about me and you ladies
Im a gay man who is bi-curious. I have a fantasy about having a sexy, well hung man show me the way to eat pussy by demonstrating on his wife. does that sound strange after 15 yrs of happily sucking cock? post pussy eating pics if you have them
My name is Randy and I live in Marion, IN. I too am bisexual and would love to be cheered on by your wife while we have fun. I have always wanted to eat a pussy with a cock in it...lick the pussy...lick the cock...repeat. Another fantasy is to partake in some simultaneous penetration where the woman is sandwiched between the men taking one in the pussy and one in the ass, while the cocks and balls are rubbing each other.
I have been on here before I got married. My wife has no idea I like dick and pussy. It is an amazing feeling to know you are attracted to men and woman. There is nothing like having dick and pussy you can play with.
I would love to meet you and be a playmate for you and your wife I would love to have your wife eat me and teach me what she likes and let you watch or let you fuck me while she eats my pussy but It would have to be discreet because I am married!
Well, being the male half all I can say is I really enjoy rubbing against another cock while being buried in a hot, wet pussy, loving how when one guy starts to cum, the other one can't help but let his load go, too. As a guy who has DVPed his wife a few times, I can tell you she absolutely LOVES it, it is one of her all time favorite sex acts. I have to tell you, though, almost hotter than doing it, is being able to watch her face when two other guys are fucking her pussy, and she knows I'm getting off watching it. I love the look on her face when two cocks are filling her pussy with cum, and the look of total lust as she straddles my face to feed me their mixed cum loads. Mmmm.
We are looking for a female to have a with. This isn't are first so me and the wife can an will please you no problem! The wife likes a big breasts an so do I. If youhave toys that's great also. We want a woman that knows her way around a womans body an also not a one night stand deal. We both love to eat pussy an very good at it to. She has 40DD breast!!! Looking forward to hearing from you...
hey sexy wife and i would luv to have u as a 1st timer it is my 1st time to as bein with a bi woman and havin sex with another woman we r lookin for another woman for a i am an experienced pussy licker and so is wife so plz let us know email here or plz
I am a MWM looing for a couple in North texas to play with. I enjoy sucking cock and eating and fucking pussy . cram pies too. I also like to get fucked if he wants some good tight man pussy. I would even take just a guy as long as wife was tolerant. I am 6' 240 lbs 6" cut cock. 65 y/o but fuck like a 20 y/o
Wow. I would love to have my wife in the room with me. I'd be sucking his cock and getting it wet and hard. She'd straddle him and I'd slide his cock into her with my mouth. I'd of course go over to the poor neglected woman on the other bed. I'd take turns fucking her and having her lick her juices off my cock; while I watch my wife ride the man. As he comes into my wife's pussy, I pump my load into her.
I come over and kiss my wife, still impaled on him. I move down and begin cleaning them both. My wife gets off him, and moves to her, getting into a juicey 69. I think that's a damned good idea and do the same with him and I. We get each other hard again. I move down and straddle his hard cock for my turn, and slide him in and ride him slowly/deeply. My wife and the woman are coming repeatedly- I stroke myself til I shoot all over his stomach and chest. My orgasm makes him shoot a second load into my hot ass.
We untie them, all cuddle in a big messy pile, and clean each other up with lots of oral. And then of course switch places!
*PS- just fantasy. In the real world we always practice safe sex with others.
dude BAD IDEA been there done that. You WILL GET CAUGHT. and you will regret it. IF you have an open marriage on the other hand then I would talk to your neighbor about it IF your wife is ok with it. But whatever you do dont go and try to hop into bed with her without your wife knowing it. Because if she is any kind of real friend to your wife she will tell you NO and tell your wife you asked her, unless your wife has told her its ok.
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